It is a wrenching conversation few 20 year olds can imagine. It is a pain that can rip one's heart to shreds.

While the King County Medical Examiner's Office had not officially released as of the Times/News deadline, the names of the three people who died June 29 in the arson fire at the Tara and Jenny Marie apartments in Burien, Adilene Rodriguez identified her eight-year-old brother Edgar Omar Cisneros and 77-year-old grandpa Ramon Cisneros as two of the victims.

Residents also Hve identified Lindy Kunimoto, 49, as the third victim.

Speaking softly from her aunt and uncle's small home in the White Center area two days after the fire, Adilene chokes back tears.

Some in the household speak only Spanish. Others, like Adilene, are fluent in English.

She wonders when investigation details will be complete so her family can have proper memorials for loved ones. Her sister was just discharged from the hospital and she is hopeful that her dad will be discharged the next day.

Edgar was a second-grade student at Gregory Heights Elementary.

Adilene takes a deep breath as she starts to speak: "He was friends with everybody. He smiled all the time.

"When my brother and sister tried to make him mad, he wouldn't get mad."

She says he was especially happy when his grandpa would visit each year.

Grandpa resided in California, and this particular time, had come up from Oregon. Adilene praises grandpa's love and contribution to the family.

"He was a hard working man. He worked in the fields in Yakima and in fields in California."

Approximately three years ago, Adilene moved into a downstairs unit at 423 S.W. 155th St. in Burien. Her family, consisting of her mother Martha Velazquez, father Jaime Cisneros, Edgar, brother Jaime U. Cisneros, and sister Adriana Cisneros moved into an upstairs unit at about the same time. At the time of the arson, Adilene resided in the downstairs apartment with her husband.

On Saturday, the day before the fire, it was going to be a fun day, she said.

The family spent a leisurely attended the Burien Strawberry Festival.

Adilene recalls the Burien/Normandy Park Fire Department being at the event and "giving lessons to little children" regarding things children should do in case of a fire.

Edgar especially enjoyed learning about this.

In the afternoon, the family and cousins headed to Angle Lake where they basked in the sunshine.

Later, the family headed home to have a barbecue at the apartment building.

At one point during the family gathering, there was a nearby disturbance.

A man became quite upset with one of the neighbors. Adilene recalls, "he yelled at the lady," supposedly because he was owed money. The family heard bits and pieces of the incident.

As the evening progressed, Adilene reminded Edgar to tell his mom what he had learned that day about fire safety.

She emphasizes, "He felt confident he would know how to get out of a fire."

As Edgar left to go to bed, he asked his sister for a kiss.

Adilene was lucky-- if you can call it that--on that fateful night.

She survived the fire, only to accompany her family members to the hospital. Eventually in the wee hours of 4 or 5 a.m., Adilene returned to the apartment building to make sure her brother and grandpa were safe.

Tears well in her eyes as she says, ""I haven't gone back since they told me they found the bodies."

Throughout the tragedy, Edgar's second grade teacher Sandra E. Aguila-Salinas has been a huge comfort to the family. She tries hard to smile through her grief.

Her face lights up when she discusses her delightful student.

"The last two weeks of school, Edgar smiled a lot. He was proud of his work. He asked me, 'Teacher, am I good in art?'"

She assured him, "Yes, you are."

She remembers him as, indeed, being a great artist.

On this particular day, Sandra and the family are discussing making t-shirts with Edgar's picture on them.

Still, Adilene and her brother Jaime can't forget the confrontation with the disgruntled man they witnessed the evening before the fire.

It is believed he lived down the street.

Adilene shakes her head, "I don't understand if somebody made that fire...I don't understand what they were thinking. All of the people there who were innocent didn't owe him."

With a community stepping up to the plate and giving so generously, Adilene is thankful. She also knows it is going to be a long road ahead.

When asked if the family needs anything, and if they have enough food, she nods yes.

She then matter-of-factly says, "Right now, we don't think of what we need."

She does mention looking for a house, emphasizing, "We don't feel we can live in an apartment."